sexycalveandthighman wrote:
j2izzo2000 wrote:
I hope you all know that I am as much of a fan of sexy newsbabes as anyone. I have lost hours of my life scrolling through all the great posts here appreciating the women represented for things other than their intelligence and character.
Having said that, while my hormone-driven instincts will miss the endless parade of extremely short-skirted sexy ladies on Fox News, I am appalled to read the comments here suggesting that it is a sad end to a great era and that "all good things must come to an end". Having learned so much about the culture of misogyny, sexual harrassment, bullying, and abuse that has been the norm for so long at Fox News, how in the world can any of us think it a bad thing that these women are hopefully not going to be so terribly mistreated any longer??? I own my own hypocrisy on this issue because I have gleaned much pleasure from them for many years now. But any suggestion that this is a sad end of an era at Fox News is absurd and disgusting. These women have been enduring humiliation, intimidation, objectification, fear, and harrassment for years. The only thing we have to endure is no longer being able to gleefully masturbate to Fox News quite as often as we are used to. Small price to pay so that these women can begin to be treated like human beings I think.
I totally get what you're saying and agree with it if it really is that all of them just were forced into it. I'm more talking along the lines of it all changing just if they're trying to take less criticism for doing it when a bunch of other newschannels and etc. are doing it as well...with the dress and etc. I mean. Also I find it hard to believe that only the foxnews women had that happen to them. The media hates the channel though so all the other incidents i'm sure have been kept quiet or swept under the rug but any blemish at Fox will mos def be trumpeted.
Glad they're cleaning up what they're cleaning up but as far as any more changes than that they should do it because they want to not because it'll make the rest of the media that hates them like them more...they're all hypocrites anyhow unless all of their women are gonna wear skirts past the knee, stay behind desks all the time and wear pants every day too.
A lot of this i'm sure was criticism of them because they could'nt beat them ratings wise and even though some of it was legitimate i'm sure some of it was used as a way to do so legitimately as a cover because they could instead of just saying they hated them because they couldn't beat them.
Yeah, it seems so that some stuff needed to be cleaned up at Fox and i'm glad they're doing so but the rest of the news industry acting like this is the only reason they hated Fox or that this is the reason they still hate them is fake, fraudulent and phony not to mention hypocritical.
That is my only point.
People like looking at pretty people...alot of the people who like to watch news like to look at pretty people including guys who make up a lot of the audience and CNN and MSNBC knows that as well or they'd fire all their attractive people...and put everyone behind a desk 24/7 as well.
The hypocrisy argument doesn't hold water. Of course there is sexual harassment at other networks and news channels. Fox is a unique case. Ailes established a culture infused with harassment of women from the moment he was in the boss's chair. Leg cams, leg chairs, overdone makeup (foxified), required wardrobe that didn't include pants. Ailes had the Twirl and the gimme a hug garbage, went nuts when an onair woman was in pants or a laptop was blocking a leg view. How many women is it now that have said all this about the work environment at Fox?
The other channels and networks ARE different. If their cultures were anything like Fox or if there was any consistent sexual harassment don't you think the women would be speaking out or suing just like the Fox women? The cat's out of the bag now. Women are going public with harassment complains. The skirt and dress lengths at Today, GMA, CBS This Morning, CNN are all over the place and some of the women wear pants and not just a handful of times in a year.
I read a lot of news. The harassment at Fox is all over online articles, blogs, and in the printed press. There's no ratings war going on with them and Fox News Channel. They have no axe to grind with Fox. Some of them probably hate Fox and with good reason and not just their deeply entrenched culture of sexual harassment. Yet these are the same publications that were all over the Brian Williams, Dan Rather and Geraldo Rivieira stories and so were the other networks and news channels.
Fox deserves every bit of focus and every bit of trashing that they get. There are plenty more heads that need to roll, the ones that were doing the harassment and the ones who enabled, defended and covered it up.